Java, is it worth learning today, especially with all the new emerging programming languages? I like to evaluate decisions like this by listing out...
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No, C# is far superior, fast, and runs everywhere. It even can become WASM. If Android didn't exist Java would have become much less popular. I programed in Java for 10 years and C# for 15. .NET is just a superior platform with the best 2 IDEs on the planet.
Companies still use Java and still need Java developers. So no matter how modern, lower maintenance or enjoyable other languages are. That fact alone makes it worth learning for a lot of people looking for a job.
Should companies migrate all their Java code to other language? I don't know. But that's not going to happen this year, so...
Also kotlin and dart... Basically all the new languages with a modern design
Kotlin with Quarkus for web dev is extremely good too.
Yes but dart has upper hand as compared to kotlin
What do you mean?
Dart is widely used as compared to kotlin
I only see dart been used with flutter... But idk. Kotlin is the "substitute" of java in the android dev world
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I think it is worth learning. When I started learning Java, I was kind of overwhelmed and thought there were way better alternatives. But now after I learned enough to create my own projects, I have a totally different view on it. I think there are a lot of programming languages that are easier and better, but the concepts I learned to use, are worth way more than the knowledge of one language. I instantly was able to understand Dart and Kotlin syntax and concepts.
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Java might be old, but I think it's still worth learning. Although I'm better at Python, but many projects still use java as their base.
Seems you've read 90s articles 😉 Please study recent benchmarks. Java is order of magnitude faster than interpreted languages like JS or Python. Contemporary Java 17 is still very good and balanced solution for data intensive systems.
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Yes it is. The last versions of Java (11 and above) modernize the language.
Don't think about the "old" Java, give it a try
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bro why c#, i heard my senior recomend c#, but i not sure why!
C# is well organized as compared to Java
You're right! I'll spend more time waiting for build because I care a lot of type correctness and I won't get any null issue to debug, and I wish it to everyone.
You’ve a point
You’ve a point though
Obviously but I think you didn’t read the article
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Yhh
Interesting
tsc is probably one of the slowest compilers out there, but now you can try esbuild, which is written in golang and can improve performance by an order of magnitude or two.
esbuild.github.io/
tsc can be very fast if you configure it to use SWC, which is written in Rust and doesn't perform any type checks just as esbuild
swc is an interesting project, but it has not been proven at scale in production environments, compared to esbuild as one of the cores of vite that is used at scale and proven effective.
Is it really good to assign null to anything? Is it enjoyable to debug such silly mistakes?
IMO allowing string = null means a poor language design, so TypeScript and Rust are better options for me than the four you mentioned.