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Why pomodoro doesn't work? Try this alternative 🍅

Max Shen on January 14, 2024

What's Pomodoro The Pomodoro Technique, developed by Francesco Cirillo, is a time management method that uses a timer to break work into...
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Hana Belay

I love this post. I always hear a lot of experiences about Pomodoro from people but was never able to apply it personally for the exact reasons you mentioned here. I don't like frequent context-switching and don't want to lose my train of thought.

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Paweł Ciosek

How do you deal with break and not thinking about the task you doing currently? 🧑‍💻 Personally i am struggling with that 🫣

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Max Shen • Edited

Edit: I write a blog post about things to do during break.


During breaks, it's beneficial to both change your environment and engage in different activities. Stepping away from your workspace can physically signal your brain to shift focus. Engaging in activities that are distinct from your work, like a short walk, stretching, or a casual conversation, helps mentally detach from work tasks. Give it a try and see how it works for you!

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Paweł Ciosek

Than you for the response 🙏❤️

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Hana Belay

I used to struggle with that too (and still do but better). Switching to a completely different activity has been helping me. That could be walking, stretching, cooking, filling my water bottle, or even peeing lol. Sometimes I forget to pee:)
Basically, any activity that will get me up from my desk :)

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Marcelo Haruo Kochiyama

I personally like to spend time with my family (wife and daughter). Working from home is tough sometimes, your family needs attention but you need to let them aside in order to focus. So during my pauses I just go out of the office and spend time with them, prepare food or something like that.

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kennyAnyi9

I play chess

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Parijaat Gaur

I prefer to stay away away from screens during my breaks to avoid straining my eyes and hooking onto a possible distraction...
For every break:
Wash face , fill water, loo -> perform a short and menial sorting, creative, or problem solving task (arranging my bed or closet, sketch a picture conjured in my head, creating a beat or humming a rhythm, 5 minute exercises, beatboxing, shadow boxing, )

The introspective mind ("the back of your head") is best engaged by such activities, and relates trivial attributes and happenings to your goal task.

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Willian Ferreira Moya

I like the idea of the pomodoro, usually what I do is to set a longer timer like 40 to 50 minutes for my pomodoros with a rest of 10 minutes, to get up, get some water and a cup of coffee, and strech a litle bit to help me avoid back pain.

But it depends on the day if I'm tired I get a samller pomodoro (like the standard 25 minutes) to rest more frequently that helps me on days that I'm not felling 100%.

I like the idea of Flowmodoro, in fact I think that some times I could extended my focus time on the task but got distracted by the alarm of the pomodoro timer.

I'll try to use Flowmodoro! Thanks for the tip!

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Yosep Ryan Agusta • Edited

Wow… It’s actually surprising to read an article that pulls the words out of my mouth. I can see the benefits of Pomodoro, but at the same time, I’m also struggling to be consistent with it. Mainly because the break time quite literally breaks my concentration. And I often get quite annoyed by it.

Then I try the alternative, I will go to deep focus for as long as I can, then whenever I feel like I’m hitting a block, I can just take a rest. This also becomes a problem as I take too long of a rest time.

Then this article introduces me to Flowmodoro, which gives a fair amount of rest time. Go ahead and read it for more details. But above all, thank you for the useful article.

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Ashish Khare😎

Great point. Backed up by a sweet software. I appreciate the article.

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Çetin Kaan Taşkıngenç

Interesting I might try it for this week.

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kennyAnyi9

Interesting stuff. I love how you elaborated on the need to focus on just a single task for this technique.
Switching context can make you highly inefficient. Thank you for writing this article

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Dannick Bedard

I will try this technique 😁

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Mares Popa

Agree 100%. If anyone is interested, I created a free app that allows you to do just this. Focus on one task, and get the stopwatch working once you are ready. Check it out for free: dolooper.netlify.app/

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Dennis Tobar

Hi,

It's nice to see how people adapt the tool to their contexts :). I have my version of Pomodoro called Limachino which I used 45 minutes of concentration + 15 of rest doing other things at home (housekeeping, walking, reading a book, whatever)... just the only rule for these 15 minutes: without smartphone.

It works to be focused :)

I know the goal is to be focused and deliver tasks, but anyone must search, use, and adapt the best tools to do the work. (Yes... a hammer may not be the best tool to be a screwdriver), but we, as scientists, must experiment until we find the best strategies to work. Some colleagues use the night because their kids are sleeping, and others start their days at 5 am (brave people!), for me, is work 45/15/15 and take a rest of 25 in my bed without music after lunch...

PS... Limachino is a big tomato from Chile. When I speak about my adaptation, I prefer to say it's a Pomodoro but big, so... a Limachino <3

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kennyAnyi9

While this works for me too, I sometimes feel it's the same as switching context.
Don't get me wrong, I use the technique a lot and it helps me achieve more in less time, making more time to do more stuff.

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Dennis Tobar

There is no magic formula to finish a task. Everyone must experiment to reach the perfect solution for their needs. As I said, some colleagues stay late in the silent night, because they can focus on their tasks without distractions (kids, pets, whatever) and others prefer to start their days earlier in the morning.
If in your case, you don't want context switching or you need time to retake a task, putting hard limits (25 or 45 minutes) is not the answer, but I recommend having a pause because your brain will feel tired and your body needs to move (and it will help to clean your mind if you're stuck in a problem!)

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shymi • Edited

Pomodoro has worked for me because of the mandatory breaks - when I get in the flow I could(and have been) forget to take any break. Although I've used some Pomodoro timers, that were not too intrusive with their notifications, and if I am really into it - I don't stop, but this has been more of a exception of the rule, than a regular thing.

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Igor Zibarev

Interesting approach, thanks.

The core idea of pomodoro for me is that, before starting, I know I'll spend no more than N minutes on the task. And the effect of this is very powerful, especially for tasks that seem hard or the ones I need to do but I really don't want to do. And when the timer ends, I decide whether I want to work more on the task, e.g. if I feel the flow.

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alessandro cerea

I am a developer and disagree with this! It is true that sometimes task-timing does not coincide perfectly with tomato intervals, but it is also true that after too long that the focus is kept, the attention goes down and therefore it is more productive to detach to resume! The trick is to define fairly short tasks, IMHO

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lionel-rowe

I prefer my brand new self-developed Microdoro Technique (patent pending). 20 seconds of work followed by 5 seconds play, repeated 300 times throughout the day. People think the "micro" in the title refers to the short duration, but that's a common misconception — actually it's because you're supposed to do the whole routine while microdosing bath salts.

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Marcelo Haruo Kochiyama

I think the objective of pomodoro is for you to forcefully make stops during your work to never become tired and really need a break. I liked the flowmodoro, but they are two very different techniques. Flowmodoro is about having a break based on the amount of time you spent focusing, but it won't stop you from burning out you focus.

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Thiago Curvelo • Edited

Isn't it simply time-tracking? 🤔
IMHO, it misses the main benefit from Pomodoro, which is fighting procrastination by making a task a little less daunting ("ok, 25min on this won't hurt...")

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Papy-La-Taupe

I love the idea, I'll try it with my study group.
As I'm currently learning in online campus, sometimes I can gobble up 3 hours of intense work, especially when applying a demonstration or class-work, and sometimes I just feel like "meh, can't write new info anymore" after 20 minutes.

So this flowmo seems great for avoid both "overpausing" and culpability on big breaks.

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Miko

Interesting approach. I think Pomodoro works for me; I just increase the intervals for work and break time, since I find context switching expensive. But counting up instead of counting down is an interesting approach. Keen to try this!

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Hauke T.

What I like about Pomodoro is, that it actually involves a piece of Hardware, not another app.
Lets face it: There is a good chance there is something interesting (distracting) going on on your phone, while you "just" want to setup your timer.

When I work from home and I expect a lot of distractions, I have an actual Chess-Clock on my desk. I use it to keep track my work-time and my break-time.

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weights

tried both of them the problem with Flowmodoro is it will not build your discipline cause after a couple of Flowmodoros your focus time will decrease but using Pomodoros it keeps you disciplined but has various cons as u mentioned so what worked for me is to takes long intervals like 90 minutes at max and maybe take mini rest in the middle for a couple of seconds

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Dan

Oh this is really neat, I've def felt the short falls of variable task length and context switching. I'd often be over 25 min in the middle of a task and have to force myself to stop or break the system which defeats the purpose.

Will def check this out!

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Kodebae

Ive been doing this but I didn't know what it was called..

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Otto Vanluchene

In the TickTick todo app you can use pomodoro or just a timer that goes up. To track your focus time.

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Rea

I'm using kanbanflow.com/
It's a regular Kanban but with stopwatch and pomodoro for task.

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Garrett

Great alternative would love to try it. I will say though the pomodoro method say not to interrupt flow the times are guidelines not strict laws.

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Dax

Would love to recreate this in a CLI tool like the popular rust tool porsmo.

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Ali Nour Al Din

I prefer promdoro

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