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🤯 Did you know there are F13-F24 keys? 🤯

GrahamTheDev on November 23, 2021

I have been using a computer for years and although I will have stumbled across this at some point it never stuck / sank in before. There are 24 f...
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planetyt

I set up Keyboard Manager in PowerToys so when my numlock is off, the numpad keys function as f13-f24

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Vishal

Hello can u let me know how u were able to remap when numpadis off in keyboard manager? I don't see any option for that

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Delta

In Keyboard Manager, open the Remap a key window, add a key remapping and with NumLock off, click Select and press the numpad button you want to use.

When NumLock is off, your numpad buttons map to: Ins, End, Down, PgDn, Left, Clear, Right, Home, Up, PgUp instead of the normal 0-9. It isn't a separate option, they just send different keys when NumLock is off.

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GrahamTheDev

Maybe I am just living under a rock? Who knows, I guess we will find out in the comments!

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leob

The one under the rock must be me, never heard of a stream deck until now ... why should "every" developer get one?

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Seän Shepherd

Hmmm, nah. Don't worry, buddy. I'M the one under the rock. I've been commenting and replying to comments on this thread the last 10 minutes and only just noticed it's 4 years old lol!

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GrahamTheDev

You will have to wait for the article for a persuasive argument but in short, programmable macro keys that adapt to the application you have open (the keys automatically change the screens and functions when you switch applications) is a game changer for most (all) developers as it can shave a few minutes off your day and our time is (should be) valuable.

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Victor Loveday

I thought I was the only one on your table

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Remco Boerma

I used to have one of those old server keyboards. F13 was a combination of alt or shift or control combined with F1 through F12.
Tested it with the scan codes the thing produced (when every hacker still used a paper reference) so while promising, collisions will happen as you will not get new combos.

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Seän Shepherd

Aah, good times, bro(grammer). Good times. =) Sometimes I almost miss the "good old days" when things were simpler and a Commodore64 or '286 were top-o-the-line, cutting edge. Glad I'm not the only "OG" hacker/geek. x)

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Interesting as I haven’t had a collision (yet!)

I wonder if I have just been lucky, going to have to investigate now.

I don’t often say this but I really hope you are wrong! 😜🤣

Thank you for the heads up as some of those bindings are linked to some things that if say 2 ran at once it could cause havoc, much appreciated! ❤️

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Remco Boerma • Edited

Your welcome, have you found any collisions yet?

quadibloc.com/comp/scan.htm has a lot of detail about it

This only applies if the operating system on the computer, like Microsoft Windows, attempts to switch the keyboard to Scan Code Set 2. Linux implementations typically choose to use Scan Code Set 3, if it is available, by default, and therefore a 122-key keyboard, under Linux, will behave more like a 101-key keyboard instead of like an 84-key keyboard. This, however, brings with it its own set of problems, because some less-expensive keyboards are known to have problems with their Scan Code Set 3 implementations.

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Seän Shepherd

...Which is why I'm a Linux zealot. I use Windows when forced to, but ever since I discovered Slackware/RedHat Linux back in the day I've never looked back. Windows has gotten better over the years, of course, but Linux is like Windows on steroids...without the side-effects. xP

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dottxado

I remember when I was kid I played the first time to The Secrets of Monkey Island, and found a log in the forest that told me to insert I-don't-remember-what-floppy and press F13....now I know that it was not an easter egg!

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GrahamTheDev

Haha so it is now the game that nobody can get 100% completion on nowadays!

Never knew that so that is interesting!

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GrahamTheDev

🤣

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Insidious

I can relate lol.

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dev fric

There can be interference if with Win and Alt due to Windows using them in isolation for some things. Safest I found is Ctrl which isn't used in isolation by Window for anything. Alt unexpectedly caused weird issues in some programs as it is used for menu navigation in isolation or in combination with other keys.
Shift can be ignored so I find not safe generally by many programs.

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GrahamTheDev

"A stream deck a day keeps the bugs away"

  • Walt Disney

😉🤣

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Rachit Khurana

👀 Never knew about it

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GrahamTheDev

Glad it wasn't just me!

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Imia Hazel

Never Know. Thanks for the information.