Introduction
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I've been a developer for 2 decades. Why people learn git commands is just beyond me, when there are amazing things like Git Graph in VS Code that does it all graphically. Just me?
Haha, I hear you! Git Graph in VS Code is indeed a lifesaver for visual folks. But hey, some of us still enjoy the thrill of typing mysterious commands into a terminal. Keeps us feeling like coding wizards! 😉✨
I second you Odumosu!
I'm glad I'm not alone! Thanks for the backup😂
Right? It elevated my programming skills and also pleased the code gods?
Definitely! Mastering these tools can really take your programming skills to the next level. It's like earning the favor of the code gods and becoming a true maestro of development. Keep up the great work!
I can't tell if you're serious or sarcastic. I hope the latter because knowing these serves no such purpose. For this to be true, programming would have to be about who knows the most command lines.
Haha, fair point! It's definitely more about how effectively you use the tools you have rather than knowing the most command lines. But hey, a little command line knowledge never hurts—just adds a bit of flair to your toolkit!
I Am Supporting this guy
Btw, can Git Graph handle interactive rebase?
Disclaimer: I use GUI regularly, but knowing CLI is a nice addition to that.
You know the difference between
rebase
andrebase --interactive
, don't you? As I see, Git Graph can't do the latter. This is the issue 5 years from now and it is still open github.com/mhutchie/vscode-git-gra...Yes, you learn it and then enjoy the speed. Nobody rejects driving because of they would have to spend some time on obtaining a license.
I want GUI to help me in complex cases, not for
git commit
orgit merge
.So you're saying that because a particular rebase variant is not available, one must ditch the entire GUI tool? I guess No, right?
I'm sorry, but if chauffeurs were free, I bet a LOT more people would forget about getting a driver's license. The same here: Why undergo this effort if
<insert-GUI-tool-here>
does it for me for free?GUI's help you in complex cases. Find the right GUI. There is none? Consider creating one and sharing with the world.
I believe nobody in this thread is talking about ditching anything.
You literally asked
And you got the answers. Nobody said you must do anything, really. However, I see no problem in learning something new to become more productive.
Fair enough. I'll ammend: "Why people learn the entirety of git commands...". I'm not against learning a particular something that you need when your need isn't cover elsewhere. I just see learning all of them for the sake of learning them as a crazy thing to do, simply put.
Congratulations on having 20 years experience and bragging about your clear laziness.
People like you are awful to work with. The amount of "developers" who "know version control and git" and are just glorified button pressers is staggering. I've had countless developers in my jobs that ask me to hold their hand through every merge. Its tiring. Just learn how to pull, push, merge, branch, and you're golden? Its like 10 commands.
Or you can continue to use a GUI and cry when errors occur because you have no idea what's going on underneath the hood.
LOL! Someone's got some anger issues. Bro, everything all right at home? Need me to call someone?
Do not confuse my passion with anger.
There are many new developers who use this forum and are impressionable. Your comment could deter them from learning a very simple and incredibly valuable skill.
Skills that are transferrable. Skills that could lead to a higher salary and better life. But sure call someone if you like. I'm always happy to meet new people and experience new things.
I have never, not ONCE, been asked in a job interview: "Do you know GIT command lines? No, sorry, I can't hire you!" LOL
You are delusional if you think knowing GIT commands matter one bit when it comes to salary or better life.
Get some help because passion does not require INSULTING other people. Or maybe a dictionary?? Either is good for you.
Hey you've insulted me just as much as I have you. If it's too much perhaps don't share your opinion on developer forums?
I never said Git commands = more money. I said its easy to learn, and as its a CLI, the exposure to the command line will help when using other CLIs.
You know how as a developer we have to use CLIs quite frequently? You even have posts about Vite in your profile.
These things are easier to learn when you have previous experience. And as you learn these things you become a better developer and earn more money. Its not that difficult to understand. But sure keep changing the goal posts of the discussion to fit your narrative.
Don't confuse MY passion, bro! :-)
Now because my opinion hurts you I must refrain from posting? How about you, perhaps, not reading my posts?
You don't need to learn GIT commands to "practice" for other command lines. This is just a memory exercise, and you've been doing them since you were in school.
What's my narrative here, exactly?
Sorry I'm not going to continue this discussion when you clearly don't understand what a transferrable skill is. And I also think there is a slight language barrier which I can only respect you for, I couldn't discuss this in your language.
To any new developers reading this I implore you to learn the basics of git commands. Even if you then go onto use a GUI, that's fine. But getting to grips with what is going on behind the scenes is invaluable.
No problem. You clearly don't understand the lack of importance learning GIT commands has, so we're at an impasse anyway.
Tip for future instances: Keep your "passion" in check. :-)
Honestly ?
Also, it's usually good to know what a GUI does under the hood and yes - you don't need to use the cli - but it cannot hurt to do so :)
Nobody has come up with a solid reason so far. Come on, guys!
Because when you interact with git through the GUI, if for some reason an error message is returned, you are not sure which git command you are executing is faulty, which leads to wrong judgment. Moreover, if you use the git command, you can have complete control over the source code, and can execute advanced git commands that the GUI does not support.
Excellent theoretical reply. In practice, I have never once lost any amount of "control" over the source code by using a GUI, and the GUI has never precluded my ability to run a GIT command in the very, extremely rare case that I have ever needed something that the GUI doesn't provide.
So yes, your answer is very solid, but doesn't describe the reality of things. Reality is that 99.9% (or more), GUI tools work perfectly and have every feature that you need. I won't go through the painful exercise of learning all of these commands to cover the 0.1% of the cases. Practicality, my friend. 😄
For some reason, Rense Bakker is afraid of my responses and have blocked me. Anyway:
Rense, learning GIT !== learning GIT CLI. I know enough of GIT not to make fatal errors like rewriting histories, so I disagree with your comment: One can destroy a repository with the CLI just as easily by reading quick descriptions of the commands and then hastily deciding on one that you think solves your problem and boom!
One can learn GIT and that doesn't imply learning the CLI as well.
Because CLI is better always!
Explain how it is better in every instance.
one word... neovim.
Searched for it. Sounds like another instance of learning dozens of things. This time, keyboard shortcuts. Yes, that's not as bad, so cool. That's, however, one instance, not every instance.
Yeah you may have to learn keyboard shortcuts, if and only if you don't know how to configure something, all you need to do is read some docs and create your own custom keyboard shortcuts, and now rather then following the standard shortcuts, you can just type what ever shortcut you created and voila! Neovim can be configured all around, now I know VSCode can also be, but tell me, from what angle can you configure it to be fast? Try loading a monorepo in VSCode, that uses TS, Docker, terraform, AWS Lambda, and a whole lot of stuff, adding up, VSCode takes like literally 1 - 2 min to load, plus if you use something like a laptop then it's even more hectic, now with neovim, you can configure it to a huge extend, I tried and I can guarantee you that it took a crazy 1 sec to open a file.
This is because of neovim's nature, it can be configured like VSCode I agree, but because it's directly compiled to machine code it executes faster, VSCode is written in TS, so first it has to compile to JS and then to machine, neovim has minimalistic packages, which are written in lua and not TS or JS, which makes it even more faster, due to the fact that all VSCode extensions are written in TS(majority of them) and thus take more time to load.
Now of course you will need to learn some basic shortcuts, but does are usually easy and you can configure them to be something else, you don't really have to worry much about the learning curve, if you really don't want much, you can just ask GPT, which is the worst option to pick, to give you a neovim configure for what all shortcuts you may want.
I see. Thanks for the rundown. Sounds like a good experience, if you can get past the learning of the shortcuts. Maybe I'll check it out later. Cheers.
Yeah you should, not only will you get blazingly fast, you will soon realize that "An idiot admires complexity and a genius admires simplicity" Of course I did not say that. Terry Davis did.
I've seen a lot of fuckups with git GUIs because people don't realize the commands it's doing in the background...
As a neovim lover... VSCODE IS SLOW AND USES 50% OF YOUR CPU!
No offense it's just for the memes.
Some people are simply faster using the cli, and/or don't like VSC.
Fair point, but they are only faster because they decided to learn the commands in the first place. Furthermore, what job role do they have to have the need for speed up to the point of going through the pain of learning dozens of commands? I can only see this making sense for a dev ops.
At some point I realized I can do almost everything faster if I don't have to touch the mouse anymore. So, learning those things took me maybe a day, but saved me way more across all the years I'm doing that now. Not only 'git' though, but really almost everything I'm working on now... neovim, tmux, i3 and many other tools allow me to work almost at the speed of my thoughts.
That's just me using neovim, so yeah as a pro neovim user, I can assure you that jjjjkkkk is faster then using the mouse.
You mean 4j4k... :-D
yeah sure, that works too, but saying jjjjkkkk is far more beautiful
Agree Jose.. feels like a superfluous flex. Another great tool is GitEXT. It looks like it's straight out of windows 98, but it works a treat. Couple if with KDIFF3 and there's zero guesswork to do.
GitEXT and KDIFF3 are fantastic alternatives for those who prefer a more visual approach. It's all about finding the tools that make your workflow smoother and more efficient. Different strokes for different folks! 👍🛠️
Thanks for sharing !
You're most welcome !
I've been a Windows user and fan for pretty much all my adult life. I hate CLI's for things I do myself. Sure, I do CLI when I do, say, GH actions and of course they are the only way to script things. I just say that, personally, Windows exists so my brain can forego many of these.
thanks pro
You're most welcome !
Thanks