Conference Buddies Meeting at KubeCon NA 2023

It's hilarious, we do quite some work together, but usually we only meet at conferences. This time, half of the planet away from Home. 
Meet Enrico and Volkmar from SVA - we chat about how their KubeCon experience was this year and what are the next topics to look into. Also a view of how you enjoy conferences as well as an honest view about tooling in the Cloud Native space and how you should approach this waste universe. 
We end on the Podcast of them and of an open source project where SVA is invested in.

I guess spoiler, see you in Paris?

Links in the Episode: 
Hobbyfarm Training Plattform
Focus on DevOps Podcast 
SVA

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